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	<title>Comments on: A Conversation About Conversations</title>
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	<description>By Meryl Runion and SpeakStrong, Inc.</description>
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		<title>By: merylrunion</title>
		<link>http://www.speakstrong.com/newsletter/2007/05/31/a-conversation-about-conversations/#comment-1275</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lynn,
From what I hear, people have been talking back to these two for a long time. In both cases they felt abandoned by their own team. I DO  believe it was how it was done. 

I watched the Rosie - Elisabeth clip looking for the opportunities on both sides to break the dynamic. I saw many opportunities that both missed. I don't watch the View enough to have a context for it, so I only speak to the dynamic of that discussion. 

Rosie appeared quite hurt, but she expressed it in a hostile manner. I thought either of them could have defused the situation in an instant had they shown more of the vulnerability that was clearly there for them both.


A tangential thought - 
Like you, I find it interesting how someone as outspoken as Rosie could be as hurt as Rosie appeared. I tend to like forceful people myself because I know where I stand with them, but I know many people automatically defend around them. So when Rosie said that when she defended her ideas, everyone took the side of "poor little Elisabeth," I wondered if there was some truth and insight in that remark. Might people who come across as naturally aggressive have a harder time being heard sometimes? I'm one of those who used feigned innocence and see-how-you've-hurt-poor-little-me tactics until I learned to communicate more assertively. 

I'm not saying Elisabeth does that - I haven't seen her in action enough to know. Even if she doesn't do it, I'm sure there are viewer who regard it that way. 

In any case, they spoke of friendship, but they alienated each other with attacks. Had they kept their friendship front and center while they communicated their needs, it would have been a whole different conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lynn,<br />
From what I hear, people have been talking back to these two for a long time. In both cases they felt abandoned by their own team. I DO  believe it was how it was done. </p>
<p>I watched the Rosie - Elisabeth clip looking for the opportunities on both sides to break the dynamic. I saw many opportunities that both missed. I don&#8217;t watch the View enough to have a context for it, so I only speak to the dynamic of that discussion. </p>
<p>Rosie appeared quite hurt, but she expressed it in a hostile manner. I thought either of them could have defused the situation in an instant had they shown more of the vulnerability that was clearly there for them both.</p>
<p>A tangential thought -<br />
Like you, I find it interesting how someone as outspoken as Rosie could be as hurt as Rosie appeared. I tend to like forceful people myself because I know where I stand with them, but I know many people automatically defend around them. So when Rosie said that when she defended her ideas, everyone took the side of &#8220;poor little Elisabeth,&#8221; I wondered if there was some truth and insight in that remark. Might people who come across as naturally aggressive have a harder time being heard sometimes? I&#8217;m one of those who used feigned innocence and see-how-you&#8217;ve-hurt-poor-little-me tactics until I learned to communicate more assertively. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Elisabeth does that - I haven&#8217;t seen her in action enough to know. Even if she doesn&#8217;t do it, I&#8217;m sure there are viewer who regard it that way. </p>
<p>In any case, they spoke of friendship, but they alienated each other with attacks. Had they kept their friendship front and center while they communicated their needs, it would have been a whole different conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Brothersen</title>
		<link>http://www.speakstrong.com/newsletter/2007/05/31/a-conversation-about-conversations/#comment-1272</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Brothersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meryl:  Its quite interesting to me how two of the most verbal people, who are normally on the attack (rosie and cindy sheehan), shrink and quit when people are actually attacking back.  I agree that people should have conversations about how to speak and perhaps to LISTEN to another side of the story.  While these are two people I definately do not agree with, they have the right to express their opinions, while others have the right to disagree with them.  I dont' think they quit because of the manner in which they were treated, but because people were finally talking back to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meryl:  Its quite interesting to me how two of the most verbal people, who are normally on the attack (rosie and cindy sheehan), shrink and quit when people are actually attacking back.  I agree that people should have conversations about how to speak and perhaps to LISTEN to another side of the story.  While these are two people I definately do not agree with, they have the right to express their opinions, while others have the right to disagree with them.  I dont&#8217; think they quit because of the manner in which they were treated, but because people were finally talking back to them.</p>
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